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Poster: clashcity Date: Mar 14, 2014 2:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Microshafted: Even though tens of millions of people use XP, f'em

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obpEz_U6flE#t=36

Just like Apple's marketing has everyone duped. The media and "I don't like change" folks have planted the Windows 8 sucks thought.

8.1 is fantastic in MANY ways. Its no perfect. None of the systems out there are.

Certainly, I'm not a fan of the metro apps and all the tablet type nonsense - but you do not have to use it if you do not want to.

The full screen start menu is really great once you start using it. I think the main flaw is how they don't build it for you with your most frequently accessed items, but instead plaster the stuff they thing folks will want and then it just completely throws you off.

Many many improvements over Win7.

You also have the choice to run XP still and that is fine. There might be exploits, and there might not - though there probably will be.

But c'mon cheapskates you got your $$ worth out it over the past 12 damn years.

Amazing how Microsoft is the big meanie for deciding to EOL a system they have maintained way longer than they should have but Apple kills their stuff off after 3 years and makes you buy an entire new unit with the Apple tax and everyone just bends over and takes it.

This post was modified by clashcity on 2014-03-14 21:36:22

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Mar 14, 2014 3:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Microshafted: Even though tens of millions of people use XP, f'em

I do not recall seeing a perishable date on XP when I bought the computer. XP is working just fine- it 'aint broke, but will be by the company. Though it may be like taking your granddad's Studebaker to the prom, I find the software to be still quite serviceable. The only thing I can not do is make my own music vids b/c Windows Movie Maker is not supported by XP.

Also, maybe this is not so much a first world problem. What % of the 29.53% XP users maybe can not easily buy a new PC? I am the only one in my household still using XP (3 on 7, 1 on 8) so for me it's mostly pissing and moaning, but I'm sure for a few million folks it will be a big problem.

(But they aren't in the first world, so f' em.
-Microshaft)

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Poster: clashcity Date: Mar 15, 2014 2:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Microshafted: Even though tens of millions of people use XP, f'em

Those darn Linux guys are doing the same thing!

http://www.linuxmint.com/oldreleases.php

16 Petra Ubuntu Saucy Supported until July 2014.
15 Olivia Ubuntu Raring Supported until January 2014.
14 Nadia Ubuntu Quantal Supported until April 2014.
13 Maya Ubuntu Precise Long term support release (LTS), supported until April 2017.
12 Lisa Ubuntu Oneiric Obsolete since April 2013.
11 Katya Ubuntu Natty Obsolete since October 2012.
10 Julia Ubuntu Maverick Obsolete since April 2012.
9 Isadora Ubuntu Lucid Obsolete since April 2013.
8 Helena Ubuntu Karmic Obsolete since April 2011.
7 Gloria Ubuntu Jaunty Obsolete since October 2010.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Mar 15, 2014 4:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Microshafted: Even though tens of millions of people use XP, f'em

How much does Linux cost?

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Poster: Ach Chew Date: Mar 16, 2014 3:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Microshafted: Even though tens of millions of people use XP, f'em

Der jokes dey it is not alveys getten here. Tryen de Knock-knock.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffbeep* Date: Mar 15, 2014 5:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Microshafted: Even though tens of millions of people use XP, f'em

About a gigabit or so download of your bandwidth for the really decent distros. But there are many to choose from.
I tried literally dozens before going with Mint.

http://distrowatch.com/

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Mar 15, 2014 7:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Microshafted: Even though tens of millions of people use XP, f'em

So if one was to make a direct comparison between a Windows OS and an OS-ALT it wouldn't work. One you pay for, one you can dl for free. Kinda apples and oranges.

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Poster: clashcity Date: Mar 15, 2014 10:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Microshafted: Even though tens of millions of people use XP, f'em

Certainly apples and oranges in that one you buy and the other is free.

It doesn't change the fact that there is a life cycle to these systems and eventually support for them will end.

Just because you bought a computer from Dell or whoever with Windows XP on it 7 years ago doesn't entitle you to support for the system as long as you desire.

If you had installed a free open source OS you would still contend with similar circumstances and you would certainly contend with a steeper learning curve in terms of maintaining the system yourself - though they have improved the process drastically in the Linux world.


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Poster: clashcity Date: Mar 15, 2014 9:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Microshafted: Even though tens of millions of people use XP, f'em

The computer you purchased and the operating system running on it are 2 different things.

All software companies have a life cycle for their products.

I don't know why everyone is acting so surprised about this. Its not like they just sprung this on everyone last week.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Mar 15, 2014 11:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Microshafted: Even though tens of millions of people use XP, f'em

But this isn't just any ol' software- it is fundamental. One can change their browser or media player or yet another version of Pong easily. This involves technical skills that are a bit more complex for the average bear and/or a capital investment in a hardware upgrade that some folks may not have the coin for. The kicker is that the OS is not broken, but that they will be breaking it.

Company A sell me a product that works just fine for many years. Then Company A comes back one day and breaks it. Hmmmm.

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Poster: clashcity Date: Mar 15, 2014 1:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Microshafted: Even though tens of millions of people use XP, f'em

Breaks it? Where is it said that Microsoft is going to make XP not function anymore...

It will work just fine.

They just no longer support the product or release any updates to the software.

Effectively - the warranty is expired and you're own your own.



This post was modified by clashcity on 2014-03-15 19:58:21

This post was modified by clashcity on 2014-03-15 20:03:57

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Mar 15, 2014 1:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Microshafted: Even though tens of millions of people use XP, f'em

>It will work just fine.

I don't think we are going to agree on this cc.

However, I think we do on this > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewj535wnvoc

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Poster: clashcity Date: Mar 15, 2014 1:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Microshafted: Even though tens of millions of people use XP, f'em

I reckon so... Though I do prefer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s52IbrfEZMo





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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 14, 2014 3:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Microshafted: Even though tens of millions of people use XP, f'em

Hey CC, so I got 8, and haven't "let" my system "update" to 8.1, but it sounds like I should, that it won't really cause me any difficulties whatsoever, eh? You seem happy, right? Meaning, currently running 8, if I say "yes" next time it asks if I want to update, no biggie?

Or, will I crash and burn and hold it against you forever?

;)

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Poster: PhD9 Date: Mar 14, 2014 4:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Microshafted: Even though tens of millions of people use XP, f'em

8.1 is indeed an improvement over 8. My main complaint is that by trying to have 1 OS for all sorts of devices, they're putting a bunch of crap software on PC's that they don't need.

It's just bloat.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 14, 2014 6:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Microshafted: Even though tens of millions of people use XP, f'em

Thx, phud 9--yes, I can see exactly what you are speaking of...as a complete moron, I feel like they tried to "make" my PC more like my phone, user experience-wise, if that makes sense...and though I don't have major issues w 8-0, I did turn off the swipe aspect (if I have that right) cause every time I touched the mouse I'd changed screens all of a sudden...

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Poster: clashcity Date: Mar 14, 2014 10:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Microshafted: Even though tens of millions of people use XP, f'em

I reckon you will be pleased with the changes in 8.1.

It allows you deviate more from the Metro interface (though I do like it for the Photo Gallery and the live tiles in Start. The weather application does some neat stuff as well) and live in the standard Windows interface.

The "Start Menu" button in the bottom left also has a right click option that reveals a jump list to a bunch of tools that is quite useful and a "why did it take them this long to add that" sort of thing.

In the Full Screen Start Menu there is a nice little arrow that takes you to the All Apps area and then various sorting options but I just hit the Start key and then type what I want so the search automatically finds it. That works really well.

Not sure if you're an IE guy but I also set that to only use the Desktop version because the full screen implementation is quite awful. That's in IE under Internet Options > Programs tab > Choose How You Open Links > Always in Internet Explorer on the Desktop.

There's your free consultation... Anything further is billable ;p

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 15, 2014 1:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Microshafted: Even though tens of millions of people use XP, f'em

Thanks for the detailed update/advice; much appreciated...

I got over the "YOU must upgrade!" blues some time ago, but I still like to whine, and I really do always just learn the minimum to be able to do what I have to do (and frankly, it is inefficient having to continually change over, but oh well...in a uni setting, it is largely "free"...).

Over the yrs I have gotten nothing but good advice from folks here about puters and software, etc.; it's nice to be able to tap folks, who like you, are always nice about sharing and tailoring for whomever is asking (ie, without being too arrogant, folks generally seem to understand the other folks, like me, being a Luddite, or what have you...).

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Poster: clashcity Date: Mar 15, 2014 2:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Microshafted: Even though tens of millions of people use XP, f'em

I understand folks want to use things till the very end.

Computers are much like cars these days - no one is buying cars to keep it for 10+ years. The darn thing likely won't even last that long.

That aspect is kind of unfortunate but when things change so drastically in tech in very short amounts of time its somewhat unreasonable to expect to not have something adversely affect a system that has been around for 12 years.

Anyway - always glad to help someone have a better computing experience.

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